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[garote]

Well, I think I'm going to take some kind of hiatus from this LiveJournal thing. Somewhere in the last half-year I must have forgotten how "second-class" the whole practice of sharing distilled thoughts with strangers is. Better to know them in person, that way you have some measure of recourse to their tribal urges of impropriety and loyalty.

Funny how you can exchange contents of thoughts with someone, and it is as worthless and insubstantial as a fart in the wind. But grope someone in the back of a darkened club, and you'll be writing bad poetry to them for months. We humans are such ridiculous things.

If you folks don't see me around here, it's because I'm hiding in the back of a darkened club.

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[zeroheretic.livejournal.com]

Funny how you can exchange contents of thoughts with someone, and it is as worthless and insubstantial as a fart in the wind. But grope someone in the back of a darkened club, and you'll be writing bad poetry to them for months.

Beautiful. Dude, don't can the journal (!) - just share thoughts like this with us once in a while. : )

[garote]

I may have to, for my psychological health. At some point I fooled myself into thinking that I could extend my social life through LiveJournal, instead of the other way around. It became more than just a 'journal', it became my attempt to meet people and make friends.

I thought to myself, "Hey, my primary concern when finding new people to hang out with, is, how do they operate on the inside? How do they think? What are their attitudes? Ah hah, well look at all these journals, this is great! It's a chance to see right into someone's brain before I even shake hands with them! I'll start talking to the writers that I like, and find a new social group in those I live close to!"

Talking to the writes I like, ... like you, Heretic, ... is great, and I enjoy and am thankful for that. But in terms of starting up an actual, face-to-face social life, this has been utterly unfruitful. My error has been in thinking that most people are even interested in meeting their online associates. ... the whole "second class" nature of it, apparently.

[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

Hey I thought the same thing, I met a LJer in a random setting, in a local club, only to find out that his romantic starry eyed journal is a hook for meeting women and nothing more. I think that the problem with the LJ is that people lie like everywhere else, and I must admit that I do the same thing to a degree. I am not going to say my most personal feelings on an online forum where people could end up meeting me randomly and saying "aren't you the one who..."

But I like you, you're refreshing, that's why I like your journal. People searching for higher intellectual being are so hard to find, so you add something to this LJ community. That's just my thoughts, though, and I might be just as phony as the rest of them, so maybe I shouldn't be listened to either. The thing with meeting people online is meeting people who have something more going for them than an internet connection.

[garote]

Advice: If, as a first meeting place, an LJ user suggests a club,

don't go.

Better off meeting in a restaurant or a library or even a video arcade, than a club. I see the first priority in an in-person meeting as being able to talk, and clubs just do NOT work for that. Heh heh.

Plus I'm biased, I don't enjoy clubs in general...

[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

Well, it was actually more of an incidental meeting, but I don't think it was a good thing, there's also another LJ user that I see on a pretty regular basis, we chat a little and then we move on.

[garote]

Refreshing: awwwwwwww, thanks! :) I likes your ramblings too. No, you don't seem phony.

Journal as hook for meeting women: I've seen several journals that give me this suspicion, yet I can't really confirm it because I've never asked the guys out on a date. >:)

[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

But technically I could be just as phony as anyone else. You never really know right?

[garote]

Yeah, that's the whole internet thing ... instead of being physically slimy, some people take the opportunity to be mentally slimy. :/

Only one way around it really, meet in person and have a chat somewhere, and find out how much the documented journal persona coincides with the projected physical one ...

Of course, there's no way to TRULY know what's going on in someone's head. That takes time. I wonder how much slower the relative timeframe is for knowing a person, if you spend the while time talking online versus hanging out in person ...

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[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

Well I think that a lot of knowing someone, and knowing what they're REALLY like is mannerism.

So I see your life is about as exciting as mine, if you're online on a Saturday evening.

*sigh*

[garote]

Well, I'm sitting here haXoring on a laptop next to Alex, who is also haXoring on a laptop. Mark is next to him. Mark just kicked ass in the kitchen, and we have many many many many many many satan many many pizzas with garlic and chipotle and mushrooms and etc. As soon as the pizzas are ready we're gonna go into the other room with Andy and Amber, and watch "the frighteners".

A good weekend so far, I reckon. Maybe not wild and out of control, but pretty good.

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[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

haXoring?

What's that?

[garote]

From
this page I just found on google:

"hack: N(haq) brilliant solution to a technical problem, Verb: (hax, haxor), Person: (haqr, haxor) swashbuckler of cyberspace, technical ninja"

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[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

*oohs*

In awe of such talent says Yoda

Yeah, my Saturday nights don't involve weird words but they're equally as uneventful.

[garote]

Y'all should come hang out with us next time we have a gathering. We're pretty geeky and intellectual, but we have a nice atmosphere.

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[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

I am in Sacramento

[garote]

So are we! Just off 59th Avenue.

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[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

Wow even in my neighborhood somewhat!

[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

BTW

If I was going to be phony, I should hope that I would be most successful at it, encouraging thoughts of a twenty inch waist, and the Jaguar that I have, and that my rich successful husband is constantly out of town, but lets me buy as many Fendi bags and Gucci shoes that my little heart desires in his absence. Despite the picture I am blonde, and I have little to do with my time, what with not working and all.

[garote]

20 inch waist -- eerrgggkkk!!!
Jaguar -- I've found I generally don't get along with girls who drive Jaguars
Rich successful husband -- oop, scared away, I'm all emasculated! waaa! ;)
constantly out of town -- errrrrmmmm ...
blonde -- *shrug* I prefer brown/black hair, meself
Fendi and Gucci -- bleegh

:)

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[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

Okay so it's not all it's cracked up to being, I was trying to make it sound as phony as it could get, maybe I should try harder next time!

I am so proud of myself, just stomped four guys on Empire Earth who scoffed at my being a girl...I had four farms before they even realized I was attacking! Yee Haw!

[garote]

Rockin'!!

Hey, are you a StarCraft player at all?

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[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

I haven't played StarCraft, I love the Sims, EE, and Alice, I never mastered Civilization, but I really liked it, and Diablo is also very cool.

[garote]

*sigh*
would that you were single...

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[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

Oh no, being single is awful!

*snicker*

Don't worry though, you'll find someone!

[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

As long as you don't grope me, you won't get in trouble!

A hiatus? You mean you're leaving your LJ? How can that be, the livejournal is supposed to be like oxygen for the troubled.

In reality I think that most people miss the greater intellect of a post to ask stupid questions, when LJ is supposed to be a format for reaching out to another human being. So I understand entirely why you may want a break...but who's going to ask me for political opinion after you...

Whatever you do, make sure it's what you want to do, but LJ should not be a moral decision or a major point in anyone's life.

[garote]

Mwee hee hee! Awww, no groping of you. Heh. No, worry not. I was actually speaking symbolically. I almost never go to clubs -- not my thing. I find there are better ways and places to meet people that would fit my personality...

I've just been a schmuck and haven't investigated them in too long. :/

I don't think I'll pull entirely away from LJ ... I thought better of it a few days after posting that ... I just have to make sure I meet people through other means as well...

[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

Yes that does sound best, and I think that clubs scare me, because I never go to one without my bf. The thought of me trying to talk to me and being aggresive towards me is too much, I think that unfortunately, I attract the wrong type of guy, the kind that would scream my name under my window for hours until I came out.

That's why I only go to the Rage, because the crowd there is relatively unfriendly, older goths who leave you alone. I have never had a goth guy come on to me. It's just socially unacceptible in our crowd I think.

[garote]

Yeah, I imagine so, with your excellent combination of politically adept brains, and "lovely bouncing" breasts (as that guy in Davis said).

Probably guys standing under your window every night, before you broadcast your state of going-steady-ness.

Yeah, relatively unfriendly older goths can be a breath of fresh air. I think it may be a generational thing.

[autumnofnewbury.livejournal.com]

Politically adept brains...is that a virtue or a curse?

Personally, I don't like this "new" goth culture, I can't exactly put my finger on what it is about it, but I must say that I don't agree, I don't really like this over-processed music they seem to be pumping out either.

A friend told me something that I thought to be very true about the scene though, he said that the gothic and or industrial scene (socially and musically) does a dip and a dive every few years. It goes underground and then becomes popular again, and then moves up and out to the surface. It never goes away, just burns and fades and burns again.

I can't wait until it goes into fade mode, where the clubs are discreet, and the people who go there go to interact not to harass.