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"The Dangers of Helmets", a British Medical Journal article arguing against bicycle helmet laws:

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/321/7276/1582#SEC4

The basic arguments are:

  1. Requiring helmets gives an impression that cycling is more dangerous than walking or driving, this scares off people who would be healthier if they cycled.
  2. If a helmet is a legal requirement, people will think that simply having one is adequate, instead of learning how to bike cautiously.
  3. Helmets don't actually protect riders (justification provided via a cartload of what is, to my eyes, rather questionable statistical analysis.)
Thoughts?

Date: 2008-06-12 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rudetuesday.livejournal.com
Yeesh. The tone of the article is pretty shrill.

If all conditions were ideal: perfect drivers, perfect riders, perfect equipment, I'd say that helmets should be suggested for riders, but not mandatory.

The title's rather inflammatory, since I don't think a helmet has actually caused anyone to have an accident or resulted in worse injury to a rider.

When I was a kid, part of civics was learning how to be a good neighbor. We had a small unit on bicycle safety during this time. People definitely should learn how to be good riders, including how to conduct themselves in traffic, as a vehicle in traffic.

Date: 2008-06-12 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beatings.livejournal.com
1. That's why god gave us Stairmasters (and parking spots close to the gym entrance, so you don't have to walk). What a wonderful world! So many ways to sweat.
2. It takes one brush with a careless driver, to encourage anyone to bike cautiously.
3. There's a chance that not wearing your seatbeat will save your life in a car wreck (you'll be thrown from the car) but the chance is still much smaller than the odds of the seatbelt saving your life. Is there a freak bicycle accident where not wearing a helmet is advantageous? I would like to know.

Date: 2008-06-12 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robocowboy.livejournal.com
People who choose not to wear bike helmets, just like people who choose not to wear car seat belts, should also opt-out of mandatory life support.

Date: 2008-06-12 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] conflictdswitch.livejournal.com
They made similar arguments about people who drive SUVs or who have airbags in their vehicles. And some studies showed that, yes, they didn't drive as cautious as they should. But those people learned to be cautious when they realized how expensive it was to get into an accident (repairs and insurance). I'm sure bicyclists will learn in a similar manner. It's called Darwinism. 8)

Date: 2008-06-12 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mommadona.livejournal.com
all i know is some dude back in minnesota or something got in a bike accident and a car ran over his head. and he lived! because of his helmet.

Date: 2008-06-12 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rudetuesday.livejournal.com
:D

Now that you've said that, I feel like the article was like watching their Parliamentary proceedings on C-SPAN. There's no attempt to be cool or calm. It's all about the theatrics, it seems.

Date: 2008-06-12 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] headless-chickn.livejournal.com
I admit with deepest shame that I'm back to *not* wearing my helmet every day. I'm just one of those dumb fucks who's gonna need a skull injury to change my mind for me.

Let's just hope I survive that first skull injury that changes my mind.

Bicycle helmet laws

Date: 2008-06-24 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] android606.livejournal.com
This sounds an awful lot like the arguments given against seatbelts when they were first made a legal necessity.

-Car manufacturers didn't like them because they gave consumers the impression that their products weren't safe.
-Many drivers didn't like them because they felt confined, and actually thought the belt prevented them from being able to "bail out" in an impending crash!
-Other lame arguments abounded, like the fact that seatbelts can break ribs and cause internal injuries in an accident. Also, the argument that people will drive less cautiously when wearing a seatbelt was used, too.


Proper safety equipment saves the lives of motorcyclists on a daily basis. Appropriate gear on a motorcycle consists of the following:
-A good fitting DOT approved helmet
-An armored and padded leather or kevlar riding jacket
-Chaps or riding pants
-Riding gloves or gauntlets
-Appropriate footwear

What do you think your chances are of avoiding serious injury or even _surviving_ after falling off of a motorcycle at 65 MPH, without all or most of the above?

Motorcyclists that get into high-speed accidents without safety equipment often get SEVERE injuries. We're talking multiple compound fractures, nearly severing limbs, and flesh scraped down to the bone. Not to mention fatal head and neck injuries, severe disfiguration, etc. etc.

Obviously, falling off of a bike at 20 MPH is a little different. Neck-down injuries would more likely include contusions, road rash and lacerations, maybe a broken bone or two; relatively minor stuff. But, hitting your head on the pavement at 20 could still cause severe injury or death.

Also, motorcyclists that wear all of the correct gear (vs. a tiny helmet, jeans, and a t-shirt) are usually the ones riding the most responsibly.

So, in my opinion, arguing that helmets are ineffective or that they will cause reckless cycling is unfounded bulls**t.

ON THE OTHER HAND...

There are a small number of cyclists on the road, and they sustain a small number of severe head injuries annually. Would instating and enforcing a bicycle helmet law be cost effective? Would it prevent injuries that cost the public money, or would it just cost more money in law enforcement? Or, more likely, would it just not be enforced at all, and therefore be a waste of everyone's time?

Maybe that same money should be used to do research into the effectiveness of bike helmets, possibly improving them? Or, maybe it should be used to provide subsidies or rebates to make good helmets more affordable for those individuals riding $25 bikes that can't afford a $40 helmet?

Or, maybe it should be used for education; try to make people *want* helmets, rather than trying to force them to wear them? After all, look at how the motorcycle helmet law has worked out; people that don't want to wear helmets get the cheapest, tiniest little helmet they can find. They're concerned with avoiding a ticket, not with their personal safety.

Maybe bikes should be regulated a little bit more? People should have training in safe riding technique and proper maintenance before they're allowed to ride a bike on public streets?


In summary:
1) [Good quality, properly-fitting] helmets obviously save lives, so stop arguing about that.
2) There are a lot of other socio-economical issues that need to be addressed before you go making bike helmets a legal requirement.

Date: 2008-06-28 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] macramedildo.livejournal.com
There's no helmet law here in NY, unlike WA where they are required. Since I'm doing A LOT of pedaling lately (sans helmet, because I don't have one), here's my $0.02:

-It might give an impression that biking is less safe (which, let's face it, it is) but they protect you anyway.

-People are too image-conscious still to do biking. They think helmets make you look dorky, so even if they DO bike, it's hard to get them to wear a helmet. Interesting that people would rather risk serious injury or death than look uncool. It's like getting people to eat healthy: it ain't gonna happen unless it tastes good.

-Finally, you could argue Darwinism, that people dumb enough to not wear helmets "deserve" serious injury... but you can be totally safe and obey all laws and it still, some idiot could knock you down or hit you. Even with a helmet, you could end up seriously injured.

When I get my own bike I'll get a helmet for it (force of habit if not skiddishness because the drivers here have NO respect for bicycles... or even basic traffic laws), but I'm not down with forcing them on anyone.

helmets

Date: 2008-09-05 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
dudes i think u guys need to chill cause when i was a kid i got in a huge accident on my bike with my helmet on. And i still got injured pretty bad and i was bleeding and stuff. I was wearing the hole set and stuff u know like helmet
and nee pads and elbow pads. So the moral is that i looked like sh@$ even though i was wearing the helmet and the pads

chill

Date: 2008-09-05 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
dude u need to relax and also u have to try to think. Cause if u r smart and stuff then u know the right way to fall cause i dont wear a helmet and im still fine. And not only that u should wear a helmet though if your going to do stunts etc. Please try to control your language because its people like your that has made the future generations so disrespectful.

chill

Date: 2008-09-05 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
though helmets and etc. was made to make u safe it shouldn't be manditory it should be optiniol.

chill

Date: 2008-09-05 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i am wondering what the point of this is but like u said some people are really selfconsouse about the helmet they wear especially if you are already not really attractive. what they need to do is improve how the helmet looks so be will not feel insecure wearing it.

chill

Date: 2008-09-05 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
God bless the world and may all of you be safe.
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